Permaculture Literacy – HHA

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  • Loren Vansant says:

    You truly nailed this on the head Bret – shit has hit the fan now, and we have no idea when it will pull back up. What I do see is that this lesson about closed-loop systems is truly helpful and so full of amazing data and inspiration. I discovered that I was heading this way without knowing it! I planned on trying to find as many local sources as possible when I move to limit my imprint – milk, manure (until we have our own or just need to supplement our own), honey, any purchases needed to purchase only locally. I had not understood at the time that this would be a closed-loop, as close to my property boundaries as I could get. I have also noticed that so many more people are now flocking to groups for farming and gardening, trying to learn and ask questions in order to grow their own foods, it is so heartwarming to see them trying to close the loops in their own world without realizing it, just as I was when I started.

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    • Bret James says:

      Yes, the current world situation with COVID-19 and the economy has definitely turned people attention towards sustainable, self-sufficient living – which might be one of the sliver linings of all of this 🙂

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  • Lisa Savage says:

    Well Bret, shit has hit the fan in 2020! So I’m very happy to be learning this stuff so I can eat in the fall and then not worry so much for the future 🙂

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  • Carien says:

    Very novel to cut a shady spot from a large bush. Love it.

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  • Angela Martin says:

    Is there a real worry (like is commonly shared) of using human waste in gardens? How about over a septic drain field (not a fear of damage to the actual system)?

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    • Bret James says:

      Most people say that humanure should be kept out of the garden or any plants that come into contact with the ground. This is because of concern for pathogens that did not die in the composting process because it is often a cold compost. This is what I follow as well – I use humane on fruit trees and ornamentals in the landscape. That said, in other countries human manure is composted and used in gardens. Now urine is different, most suggest that it is safe to use on garden beds because it is sterile. I personally do use urine in our garden beds.

      Regarding a septic, ideally no plants should be planted there because it will damage the system. In a drain field all of the human wastes are below the soil surface so the issue becomes a non-issue.

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  • Xochitl Coronado says:

    Is there a compilation of everything you know of that would work as fertilizer that may be considered waste?

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    • Bret James says:

      Xochitl – not that I am aware of. But what I can say is that if it was once living and hasn’t been turned into something toxic then it likely can be used to add nutrients to the soil, feed soil life etc. Around the house kitchen scraps, paper, newspaper, egg cartons, urine, humanure, woodash, any organic material from the landscape can be turned into compost or fertilizer. Industrial by-products are sometimes turned into fertilizers as well, such as bone meal, feather meal, blood meal etc.

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