Permaculture Literacy – HHA

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  • great lesson! We could also add an 8th function of trees: foster biodiversity. I warmly recommend you Peter Wohlleben “the secret life of trees”, a must read! On the other hand, I just visited different projects (here in Europe) where people are exploring ‘resilient trees’, which are trees coming from southern regions in order to test them. Indeed, climate is and will continue to change. So we must probably not plant the same trees as we were in the past apparently. Many experts we meet (here in Spain, France, Belgium), recommend to plant a good diversity of trees (4 to 8). I hope this help!

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  • Cori Achi says:

    Why is the Permaculture Book by Bill Mollison about $365-$600? Is is out of print? Do you know where I can get a reasonably priced copy.

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    • Jesscy says:

      {HHA Coach} Hi Cori! You can find used copies on eBay for much cheaper. You can also buy the PDF if that’s your thing. đŸ™‚

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  • Diana Furlong says:

    Loved both of the Daniel Vitalis Rewilding podcasts. Learnt so much from these. Especially the comparison of a foragable landscape v. a permaculture system. I’d like to add to my calorie intake this way – loads of blackberries growing on the common – but realise I’ll need to check with some local foragers to see if the local parkland is sprayed or treated with chemicals in anyway.

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  • Stephen Haley says:

    My backyard is literally a “sinkhole” in the treetops. I’m surrounded on three sides by 60+ foot trees and on the fourth is the house. During several tropical storms and hurricanes, I have been able to walk out into my backyard where at ground level the air is calm. THe treetops are whipping back and forth though. Always thought that was interesting.

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  • Laci says:

    I didnt realize how important trees were to me until we first went to buy a house. Some of the houses we looked at, and even had liked, we passed on due to lack of trees. We finally found the house we were looking for about a year and a half ago. It needed a lil cosmetic help, which we didnt mind, but it came with a big maple and a big black walnut tree.
    I havent decided if we like the black walnut after all though. It definitely has its disadvantages…but we’re trying out a set up that might work with our yard without removing it. We trimmed back the branches on one side to keep it as far away as possible from most of the garden. I’m also looking into juglone tolerant plants that could produce foods as well. Trying to turn our problem into a solution.
    I wish our property was a lil bigger to plant some fruit trees. Our garden is already competing with trees for full sunlight so the backyard isnt an option…so maybe a small variety that might work in our front or side yard.

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  • Yamira Rivera says:

    I ordered the book. Thanks for the suggestion!

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  • Loren Vansant says:

    I truly enjoyed this lesson and learning about different ways to harness and work in partnership with trees. I found this one especially helpful since our land is completely bare of trees so that I can now watch for patterns and then select which species would be best to bring in and work with them and the land to see where we can all get the most benefit from them living.

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  • AurĂ©lie Dolbeau says:

    Are we allowed to plant whatever trees we want no matter where we leave ? I mean, some trees species can be useful but if they are not endemic, could they become “invasive” like some other plants ? Of course, sometimes the weather/climate of your region, when not suitable will prevent it to grow, but if the climate is suitable, are there not some regulations ?
    Thank you for your enthusiasm about trees, I see I’m not the only one in awe in front of a tree đŸ™‚

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    • Bret James says:

      Hey Aurélie!

      Such a fantastic question and it has such a large response.

      To start with, no there are not any regulations for the most part, aside from maybe some isolated cases of local governments identifying “invasive” and regulating it.

      But for example, blackberries are “invasive” and you can plant them anywhere.

      Or some trees, such as pines, naturally alter their environment to prevent other tree species from growing and therefore become something of a pine tree monoculture.

      This brings up the question of what is invasive and what is native – hence the quotes above.

      Native is simply a human assignment to a plant that existed in a bioregion at the time of modern western mans arrival.

      The problem with that is that ecosystems are not static! The lesson on natural (ecological) succession shows how deserts / plains become scrublands, become transitional forests, become old growth forests and then back to deserts.

      So its a curious question – what is native? What is invasive? Is invasive bad?

      For example, here in CA the blackberries take over and people hate them!

      But, they are a plant that is filling a niche and need. They are performing an ecological function where nothing was before.

      There are areas that I have been where once the “invasive” blackberries have been removed the soils underneath was more restored than in surrounding areas.

      So, I think its partially contextual, partly limiting beliefs and understanding of humans and partly new perspectives that we need to take.

      And yes I believe it is our responsibility to think about what we plant, maybe as you are suggesting, because there is always effect on the local environment.

      After reading more on the topic of invasives I have personally loosened my concern – here are couple of podcasts to start with.

      http://www.danielvitalis.com/rewild-yourself-podcast/native-to-when-ben-falk-166

      http://www.danielvitalis.com/rewild-yourself-podcast/beyond-the-war-on-invasives-tao-orion-173

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  • susan tupper says:

    love trees and they are the main reason I am doing permaculture. Too much tree cutting is going on in the little island where I grew up, to clear land for kava as a cash crop. Did not really affect me until my sister allowed some relatives to cut trees growing in our little spot. They cut my favorite one on the stream and others further and did not use the entire tree cos all they wanted was the trunk for straight timber – talking about old growth teak. My favorite one was huge and it was lying in a mess when I got there. Broke my heart hence I am going to learn all I can and head back to be custodian. She always protested the logging around the waterways but people did not listen and now rivers are drying up and they blame climate change (they blame the developed nations) while they are still cutting indiscriminately! I hope to be able to get them to be proactive regarding conserving what’s left and regenerate the forest they’ve demolished – it is so easy to wipe out little island ecosystems now the chainsaw has become an easily available tool.

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  • Brian Moyer says:

    Unable to mark regenerative modules when completed and would like the link to Bill Mollison book. Thanks !

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